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June 18, 2010

World Cup 2010: US Advancement Scenarios

So I’ve been asked a bunch of times, what it will take for the US to advance to the next stage.

Here are the tie breaking situations regarding advancement (top 2 teams advance).

1. Total points after three games (3 points for a win, 1 point for a tie, 0 points for a loss).
2. Goal differential after three games (total goals scored – total goals given up)
3. Greatest number of goals scored in all group matches

So after two games, here are the standings of Group C:

Team Points Goal Differential Goals Scored
Slovenia 4 1 3
United States 2 0 3
England 2 0 1
Algeria 1 -1 0

I’ve had a lot of questions about what needs to happen for the United States to advance.

The US will advance if…

The United States BEATS Algeria regardless of the outcome of England vs Slovenia

or

The United States TIES Algeria AND Slovenia BEATS England

or

The United States ties Algeria AND Slovenia ties England AND the United States scores more total goals over 3 games than England (after 2 games, the US has scored 3 goals and the English have scored 1 goal)

To sum everything up…if the US wins…they’re in. If they lose, they’re out. If they tie, they need help from the other game.

Basically, the US is in the best possible position. Their advancement to the next round rests solely in their hands.

They need to take advantage of it and get that win against Algeria.

June 17, 2010

World Cup 2010: United States vs Slovenia

Filed under: World Cup — Tags: , , — Jonathan Lee @ 4:09 pm

When the World Cup group draw was released last year, many people got lost in the excitement that was “England vs United States”. Many people mistakingly thought that this match-up was the most important/biggest game that the United States would play in the group stage. Lost in the hype and excitement surrounding the build up to the game was the fact that many analysts had the US losing, yet still advancing to the 2nd stage.

Contrary to popular belief, the US’s most important game is their upcoming game against Slovenia, the #25 ranked team in the World (US is #14). After the Slovenia gained 3 points with a win over Algeria, this game has become nearly a must win situation for the US. Why? Let’s take a look at the standings after the 1st game. After the 1st game, Slovenia leads the group with 3 points, while England and United States has 1 point. Algeria is last with 0 points.

One has to “assume” that the #8 English will beat both Algeria and Slovenia. Yes, weird things have happened (Switzerland beating Spain), but on any random day, the English have to be considered HEAVY favorites against these two teams. If they do beat these two teams, the English will finish with 7 points.

Now lets take a look at the following scenarios making the assumption that the English beats both Algeria and Slovenia

The US LOSES to Slovenia

Slovenia would finish with 6 points. Even if the US beats Algeria, they will only finish with 4 points. The US would fail to advance to the next round.

The US TIES Slovenia

Slovenia would finish with 4 points. The US would have 2 points following 2 games. Their game against Algeria would become a MUST WIN situation.

The US BEATS Slovenia

Slovenia would finish with 3 points, and the US would have 4 points after the first two games. There would be less pressure against Algeria in their final game to get a desirable outcome.

To note, there are many external variables surrounding these outcomes, and it is very possible that England will choke like France or Spain and lose a match. In order to minimize the impact of external situations regarding the US’s advancement to the next round, the US needs to take advantage of what they’re given and win.

The US is a far better, more skilled team than Slovenia, and they SHOULD win this game. Anything less will definitely be a disappointment.

I feel there are 4 type of teams: a bad team, average team, good team, and a great team.

A bad team can’t beat anyone. An average team is the unpredictable one…they can beat good teams and lose to bad teams. A good team consistently beats the bad/average teams, yet can not consistently beat fellow good/great teams. A great team consistently beats everyone (or can beat anyone on the biggest stage).

With regards to basketball last season, bad team = Washington Wizards. average team = Golden State Warriors. good team = Cleveland Cavaliers. great team = Boston Celtics and LA Lakers.

The United States is definitely not a bad team, nor are they a great team. However, I dont know whether to label them an average team or a good team yet. The US has shown flashes of brilliance in world cup qualifying as well as pre-world cup warmups, but they have also shown inconsistency at times.

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of team shows up for the game tomorrow. The US is heavily favored against Slovenia and Algeria. Let’s see if they play like the favorites.

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